Hydra-charger

dc2GS-R

Super Moderator
Word leaked out a long time ago that Garrett was working on a product called the Hydra-charger. It was designed by Dave Kapich, a Garrett employee. He came up with the idea of mating a turbocharger's compressor to a tiny little turbine driven by high-pressure hydraulic fluid. It promised the efficiency of a turbocharger with the response of a supercharger and tunability and packaging benefits all its own. Turns out Garrett dropped the development program for this and the rights to this idea were reverted to Kapich Engineering. Supposedly they are developing it and engineering adjustable multi-stage pumps to run the boost in any way that you select. that way you can run say 12 psi in 1st, 15 psi in 2nd gear and so on. choose whatever you want to achieve the desired traction, acceleration and power for each gear and rpm. this an awesome idea...they need to hurry up!
 

GSROWNSU

New Member
what about leaks though...not only do you have to worry about boost leaks now but this hydralic fluid leaking...should be interesting to see what happens
 

DailyDB8

>>>Honda Enthusiast<<<
keep us updated... very interesting :thumbs up
 


dc2GS-R

Super Moderator
yeah but you also wouldn't have to worry about the heat of the hot exhaust gases heat soaking everything as well as cracking manifolds and turbine housings. plus it wouldn't affect cold start emissions which would make it alot easier to CARB certify
 

LaDY iNTEgRa 9

. . .MiSSiN dA tEg :(
GSROWNSU said:
what about leaks though...not only do you have to worry about boost leaks now but this hydralic fluid leaking...should be interesting to see what happens
very good point. all inventions have their downfalls, but with time and reinvention i believe that something like this could possibly be pretty damn awesome. probably going to be a lot more pricey though. . .
 


dc2GS-R

Super Moderator
GSROWNSU said:
what about leaks though...not only do you have to worry about boost leaks now but this hydralic fluid leaking...should be interesting to see what happens
hydraulic fluid is easy to contain. how often does your brake or clutch system just start pouring out hydraulic fluid?
 

GSROWNSU

New Member
dc2GS-R said:
hydraulic fluid is easy to contain. how often does your brake or clutch system just start pouring out hydraulic fluid?
hmmmmm good point...just seems like more can go wrong though...we'll see what happens
 

sonicvybe

new driver
GSROWNSU said:
what about leaks though...not only do you have to worry about boost leaks now but this hydralic fluid leaking...should be interesting to see what happens
as long as they follow thru with the research and development and not cut corners...it can very possibly be on shelves someday...if ppl want 30 psi in 1st gear..and 12 psi in second....so b it. :)
 

dc2GS-R

Super Moderator
I've read where someone, not sure if its the same people, are developing this idea with the concept of the metallic hydraulic fluid to control it. The hydraulic fluid contains tiny metallic particles in it. That way they can put precise magnetic currents through the fluid to control the viscosity of it. The stronger the electro-magnetic current, the stiffer it makes the fluid. The thicker fluid aids the spool-up of the centrifugal style supercharger with the ability to withdraw magnetic current at higher RPM's to reduce viscosity and allow better top-end and high speed flow.
 

speedin

The Transporter
here is a new turbo tech for you. magnetic berring turbo. the shaft will accually levatate (like the highspeed trains) and that makes for 0 resistance and crazy fast spools. id be suprized to hear no one has done it yet. i mean mag lev technology is considerably old
 
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