Brian Crower Stage 2 cams

[crussell2009]

The info i've read on these says these are literally drop in and work w/ stock valvetrain. So would someone still need a tune and adjustable cam gears?

 

[Samurai_Blue]

http://briancrower.com/makes/honda/b16ab18c.shtml

they require dual valve springs and titanium retainers

 

[crussell2009]

http://www.horsepowerfreaks.com/performanceparts/Acura/Integra/Engine/Cams

Just scroll down to the brian crower stage 2 cams for integra....3rd from the top, are these different they work.

 

[Samurai_Blue]

it looks like those are for an ls and not a gsr but the ls ones also need valve springs brian crower stage 2 cams need dual valve springs

 

[crussell2009]

http://www.horsepowerfreaks.com/ViewPartDescription.asp?Brand=Brian_Crower&Subcategory=Cams&Details=Stage_2

OK what about these still brian crowers, stage 2, has an application for B18C and says will work with OEM valve springs.

 

[mirrorimg]

The picture is of LS cams, but in the description the offer them for other motors.

http://www.briancrower.com/makes/honda/b16ab18c.shtml

The website, as Dylan posted, says it requires upgraded valvesprings. I would listen to the manufacturer, not the retailer.

 

[Samurai_Blue]

i mean try to run them with stock valve springs....no one says you cant. That description looks like their old Stage 1 cam anyways.

 

[mirrorimg]

And you wont be able to extract all of the power the cams can put out without adjustable cam gears and a tune.

 

[crussell2009]

ight, thanks guys, i wasn't trying to like be a dick and argue or anything, was just kind of lost when it said they were a straight drop in application w/ good power gains, too good to be true. lol

 

[mirrorimg]

Well the thing is, higher lift, higher duration cams put more strain on the stock valve train, i.e. valve springs and retainers. You dont want those valve springs not being able to keep up with the cams compressing them/them uncompressing, and causing valve float.

 

[j13]

Is there a very noticable difference of these stage 2 cams, without adjustable cam gears and a tune?

 

[jznsn2u]

Is there a very noticable difference of these stage 2 cams, without adjustable cam gears and a tune?

it probably wont idle smooth. and it might have that v8 muscle sound when the a/f isn't balanced and it sounds beastly, depending on what lobe size's you go with.

 

[BigMac88]

Is there a very noticable difference of these stage 2 cams, without adjustable cam gears and a tune?

YES. You can use them with stock valvetrain if you keep the stock redline. Will you be maximizing the cams' power potential? No.

YOU ABSOLUTELY NEED A TUNE!!!!

it probably wont idle smooth. and it might have that v8 muscle sound when the a/f isn't balanced and it sounds beastly, depending on what lobe size's you go with.

The stage 2 NA cams have a factory idle grind, but the VTEC lobes are bigger and you WILL run lean while in VTEC with these cams.

Cam gears adjust the power band.

These cams can make power upwards of 9500 RPM's, so upgraded valvetrain and a good tune are essential to making them work properly.

 

[HiPowerMtrsprts]

BC Stage 2 Cams FTW 8)

 

[crussell2009]

Anyone in the indiana area know of anywhere to get a tune? Haven't heard of anyone/anywhere.