Frankenstein
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BugJuice
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i was thinking about building it my self with my dad. The article online don't look to complicated. And they have kits like golden eagle with no machining required. I would plan on redlining when i want performance. I heard just don't got over a certain rpm.Its only illegal if the engine is older than the car its going into. Lsv is safe, people talk crap about becuase they build it in their fronyard, redline when done, thinking they have a gsr and blow it. Get a builder, do it right, and dont abuse it.
rybread761
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If youre going to redline, how is there an RPM youre not supposed to go over? I dont get it.i was thinking about building it my self with my dad. The article online don't look to complicated. And they have kits like golden eagle with no machining required. I would plan on redlining when i want performance. I heard just don't got over a certain rpm.
rybread761
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If you cant redline, then whats the point.
rybread761
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Just dont Chris Brown the shit out of it lol
BugJuice
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from my understanding. You can redline a frank setup but if you rev to high. Meaning 8k and up its bad on the block. Considering my cars redline now is 6.8kIf you cant redline, then whats the point.
mirrorimg
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A true frank is a B18C1 with an LS crank/rods and GSR,ITR or B16 pistons. So already the B18B1/A1 block is deviating from the original plan.The LS rod bolts are considerably smaller than the VTEC rod bolts, and that is why they should be swapped in my opinion (shared by many others). The LS block was never intended to spin up to 8200 or whatever the VTEC RPM limit is.You don't need to pull the motor if your going to do an ls/vtec setup. All you need to do is pull the head, put a new headgasket with the new head on. Make sure you get a kit with the dowels you need for the head, oil line, etc. Get a new ecu, run the vtec wire and bam, you got ls/vtec. You can do it in a day if you got the tools, parts, and time. Everyone just makes the swap harder than it is because they want to do all sorts of extra s*** with the swap.
I wouldn't put the motor together unless I knew the rod bolts would not snap and ruin the very engine I put together. But that's just me.
The rod bolts are not as strong and the VTEC rod bolts. They may stretch and snap, potentially sending the piston through the block or worse, into the combustion chamber.from my understanding. You can redline a frank setup but if you rev to high. Meaning 8k and up its bad on the block. Considering my cars redline now is 6.8k
Cripton805
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Don't do it if you don't have enough money to fix it if something goes wrong.
It's like spending/betting all your money in the casino and hoping to get your money back with cash on top.
It doesn't always work that way. You might end up doing a hack job and screwing yourself over.
It's like spending/betting all your money in the casino and hoping to get your money back with cash on top.
It doesn't always work that way. You might end up doing a hack job and screwing yourself over.
built_ls
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good advice. Save up like an extra 2 grand or something in the bank...Don't do it if you don't have enough money to fix it if something goes wrong.
It's like spending/betting all your money in the casino and hoping to get your money back with cash on top.
It doesn't always work that way. You might end up doing a hack job and screwing yourself over.
BugJuice
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the swap is so expensive i might as well get a new carJst save up for a swapp instead of in the long run something goes run then your screwed and have to pay more ..for parts
Aussie
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Look man, I don't know what reasons the new generations have came up with for swapping a vtec head, but originally it was done because it flowed more air and you could make more horsepower. Your not going to kill an ls block by spinning it up to 8k. There is no vtec rpm limit, the rpm limit is based fuel, air, and how your motor is built.A true frank is a B18C1 with an LS crank/rods and GSR,ITR or B16 pistons. So already the B18B1/A1 block is deviating from the original plan.The LS rod bolts are considerably smaller than the VTEC rod bolts, and that is why they should be swapped in my opinion (shared by many others). The LS block was never intended to spin up to 8200 or whatever the VTEC RPM limit is.
I wouldn't put the motor together unless I knew the rod bolts would not snap and ruin the very engine I put together. But that's just me.
The rod bolts are not as strong and the VTEC rod bolts. They may stretch and snap, potentially sending the piston through the block or worse, into the combustion chamber.
Once again this is an easy bolt on for more hp. People gave it a bad name because they ran them too hard and had problems. If you have the money for a full gsr swap go ahead and do that, if not there is nothing wrong with getting a vtec head and swapping it on.
BugJuice
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thanks for the straight forward answerLook man, I don't know what reasons the new generations have came up with for swapping a vtec head, but originally it was done because it flowed more air and you could make more horsepower. Your not going to kill an ls block by spinning it up to 8k. There is no vtec rpm limit, the rpm limit is based fuel, air, and how your motor is built.
Once again this is an easy bolt on for more hp. People gave it a bad name because they ran them too hard and had problems. If you have the money for a full gsr swap go ahead and do that, if not there is nothing wrong with getting a vtec head and swapping it on.