Aussie
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No you should remove the oil pan and make sure you didn't leave something undone in there, and possibly remove whatever may be grinding around.
LightVibes
New Member
Undone? If I may refresh my steps...
Unbolt exhaust. Unbolt flywheel cover. Drop oil pan.
Drilled/tapped out hole for new bolt.
Cleaned thoroughly, removing excess metal shavings.
Changed oil filter. Reinstalled bolt/washer. Rebolted oil pan.
Reinstalled flywheel cover. Tightened exhaust.
Filled with oil.
Did I miss something? Could it just be dry from me having to work on the pan for a couple hours..and will quiet down once oil cycles through the filter/engine (did not fill filter with oil btw).. What are you thinking I could've left undone??
Unbolt exhaust. Unbolt flywheel cover. Drop oil pan.
Drilled/tapped out hole for new bolt.
Cleaned thoroughly, removing excess metal shavings.
Changed oil filter. Reinstalled bolt/washer. Rebolted oil pan.
Reinstalled flywheel cover. Tightened exhaust.
Filled with oil.
Did I miss something? Could it just be dry from me having to work on the pan for a couple hours..and will quiet down once oil cycles through the filter/engine (did not fill filter with oil btw).. What are you thinking I could've left undone??
OneFastGSR
Member
Howcome you didn't fill oil filter with oil? Just curious
LightVibes
New Member
Did you not read the title of the posting...?
I'm a little special. :lol:
Well, actually, no just the way it is mounted and the difficulty of getting the oil filter removal tool in there in the first place deterred me from trying to meander a half full filter sideways above my face..
But, could this have caused any problems??
LightVibes
New Member
Thanks muck! I am going to just go ahead and get a new oil pan @ 80$...=[
Mine's dented and slightly leaking still...so skip the what if's..
But the more and more I thought about it, perhaps you're right my friend.
I'll put up some pics just so y'all can see what I did anyhow.
Thank you all for the support and response!
Stay tuned!!!
On a side note, what a cool community, glad to be here and thanks for the warm welcome..
Aussie
Zoom-Zoom
I'm just saying that you accidentally might have missed something or forgot something inside. I've put together tons of motors and transmissions, I left a little piece of an old spider gear inside once, it happens.
Not filling your filter with oil doesn't matter, I never do, and whether it's right or wrong it won't cause your engine to make that sound.
Nick_C78
New Member
I was typing this out before I read the comments, because I rarely read peoples replies, but thank you for stating this Aussie. There is no way in hell that bolt hit the crank. Not sure what else caused the sound. Video of it. Maybe you put the flywheel cover on wrong and its hitti g the flywheel?
LightVibes
New Member
Welly well well..
Muck, thank you for the advice, and Nick4...yes that was the problem. The pan is currently butted up against the flywheel cover. I think that when you tighten this oil pan puppy down you have to do it from the fly wheel side first, instead of just fitting it flush, you kind of have to go in at an angle upwards with the pan towards the passenger side..In other words When tightening your oil pan, start at an upwards angle with the lowest part of the oil pan angled upwards towards the flywheel..
It is still rubbing, but mellowed out on the 3-4 mile drive home...One more question, will this damage my flywheel if I just let it rub a bit? It sounds bad, but I don't think any serious damage my incur, nor should it disrupt the gasket or fitment of the pan at all..
Here's some pictures and steps as well..
<a href="http://s793.photobucket.com/user/LunkerLinesiders/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMAG0104.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i793.photobucket.com/albums/yy213/LunkerLinesiders/Mobile%20Uploads/IMAG0104.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo IMAG0104.jpg"/></a> The first exhaust bolt from the manifold to the header I undid, popped the head right off..
<a href="http://s793.photobucket.com/user/LunkerLinesiders/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMAG0105.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i793.photobucket.com/albums/yy213/LunkerLinesiders/Mobile%20Uploads/IMAG0105.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo IMAG0105.jpg"/></a> Next exhaust bolt to undo..
Final exhaust bolt..
The flywheel cover, which you have to take off after the exhaust, if not you can drop half of the pan (with it leaning down towards the driver side) but it will not budge unless you unbolt this guy.. smaller bolts are 10mm larger is 9/16 I believe
Another bottom view of the flywheel cover..
The new bolt complete with leaky metal washer fitment, if I do that again (crosses fingers), I will use a rubber gasket, but hopefully won't ever have to..
The flywheel, you can see the shiniest part where it was rubbing on the oil pan a tiny bit..
With the pan dropped and the new gasket still intact, she's a dirty little whore eh?
The GIANT bolt I tried to use after tapping the old oil pan, complete with plumbers tape, ghetto special!
And well.. yeah, my final question as stated above, will the oil pan rubbing a little bit on the flywheel cause damage to the flywheel, it hasn't damaged the pan or the gasket from what I see after buttoning it all up...??
Muck, thank you for the advice, and Nick4...yes that was the problem. The pan is currently butted up against the flywheel cover. I think that when you tighten this oil pan puppy down you have to do it from the fly wheel side first, instead of just fitting it flush, you kind of have to go in at an angle upwards with the pan towards the passenger side..In other words When tightening your oil pan, start at an upwards angle with the lowest part of the oil pan angled upwards towards the flywheel..
It is still rubbing, but mellowed out on the 3-4 mile drive home...One more question, will this damage my flywheel if I just let it rub a bit? It sounds bad, but I don't think any serious damage my incur, nor should it disrupt the gasket or fitment of the pan at all..
Here's some pictures and steps as well..
<a href="http://s793.photobucket.com/user/LunkerLinesiders/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMAG0104.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i793.photobucket.com/albums/yy213/LunkerLinesiders/Mobile%20Uploads/IMAG0104.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo IMAG0104.jpg"/></a> The first exhaust bolt from the manifold to the header I undid, popped the head right off..
<a href="http://s793.photobucket.com/user/LunkerLinesiders/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMAG0105.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i793.photobucket.com/albums/yy213/LunkerLinesiders/Mobile%20Uploads/IMAG0105.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo IMAG0105.jpg"/></a> Next exhaust bolt to undo..
Final exhaust bolt..
The flywheel cover, which you have to take off after the exhaust, if not you can drop half of the pan (with it leaning down towards the driver side) but it will not budge unless you unbolt this guy.. smaller bolts are 10mm larger is 9/16 I believe
Another bottom view of the flywheel cover..
The new bolt complete with leaky metal washer fitment, if I do that again (crosses fingers), I will use a rubber gasket, but hopefully won't ever have to..
The flywheel, you can see the shiniest part where it was rubbing on the oil pan a tiny bit..
With the pan dropped and the new gasket still intact, she's a dirty little whore eh?
The GIANT bolt I tried to use after tapping the old oil pan, complete with plumbers tape, ghetto special!And well.. yeah, my final question as stated above, will the oil pan rubbing a little bit on the flywheel cause damage to the flywheel, it hasn't damaged the pan or the gasket from what I see after buttoning it all up...??
LightVibes
New Member
Well, I just contacted my local shop..really cool cats who have done me right in the past..I asked about the rubbing..
In the auto tranny it is probably rubbing the flex plate..and the pan is cast aluminum..
Does anyone know the material of the flex plate? Perhaps it's steel..which would rub down the aluminum pan eventually..He initially said it wouldn't move if the pan was rubbing, but I told him I drove it home and he said it may be ok...any second or even third opinions? thanks!
In the auto tranny it is probably rubbing the flex plate..and the pan is cast aluminum..
Does anyone know the material of the flex plate? Perhaps it's steel..which would rub down the aluminum pan eventually..He initially said it wouldn't move if the pan was rubbing, but I told him I drove it home and he said it may be ok...any second or even third opinions? thanks!
Nick_C78
New Member
Damn I am good. Why don't you just take the flywheel cover off and beat the hell out of it with a hammer until it clears the flywheel? Rather than just let it rub away. Hell, you might be able to get in there with some pliers, or a flat hear or something and bend it out enough to where it won't rub. Just an idea. You don't want too much metal shavings being made by that rubbing. If any of that gets on the rear main seal it will shred. Then you are in for a bitch of a fix.
LightVibes
New Member
Yeah, i'ma drop the flywheel cover and shove a flat head up in there, try and wiggle her around so it gets clearance..thanks again bud!