B20 High Compression for $600?

Smartin

New Member
Called this shop in E Monte,Ca. called "jrautosports" and the guy told me he got a JDM 2000 CRV B20B high compression WITH knock sensor behind the block. :)

As far as I know, to identify high comp, the motor needs to have the knock sensor behind the block. Like below the intake manifold?

Also uses PHK pistons rather than p3f?

What else should I be aware of?

Thanks guys.
 

Spawne32

Shut up baby, I know it!
PHK pistons are the high compression pistons, but to the best of my knowledge, no b20's in JDM form came with high compression pistons, but dont quote me on that. B20Z2's in the states are the high compression variants, they came in 99-01 honda CRV's. Make sure you can see the piston stamp PHK, that is the most important thing.

http://hybrid.honda-perf.org/tech/b20/b20tech.html
 

Smartin

New Member
Btw, my RS tegg is obd1, would it be a straight swap or would i need obd2?
 


Smartin

New Member
What does one do about the knock sensor? will just be there? will it throw a code 21 for knock sensor?

Thanks.
 

Spawne32

Shut up baby, I know it!
if your obd1 and your a B18B1 already, you dont have a knock sensor, so you dont have a knock board on your ecu, so just leave the sensor unplugged on the block, as far as whether or not it will run right off the bat, it SHOULD, but it wont be tuned properly, so you want to look into tuning, either hondata or something to get the most power out of it.
 

Jaeluhv

New Member
Thanks for the info spawne ! I will be deciding on hiigh or low compresssion tomorrow. Hopefully high comp fits perfectly like i think it does :}
 


72Spitfire

Member
(Taken from a Honda-tech thread.)

How to identify your B20 Motor:

Let's first start off by saying that ALL USDM motors will have a number after the last letter in it's engine code. The Engine code stamp can be found where the transmission and block mate at the front of the motor. The JDM motors do not have this number after the last letter. For example, a B20B1 is a USDM motor, whereas a B20B is a JDM motor.This is important to understand in determining which motor you have.

Next, there weren't any B20Z's in Japan. All the JDM B20's were stamped B20B, regardless of the year. You can tell the year of the motor by checking the year/month the head was cast in. The year is located just above the fourth exhaust runner. It is in a circle with a slash through it. Disregard the slash as it means nothing. For example a circle with a 9/8 is a motor that was made in 1998. Be careful though, as this is not a 100% accurate based solely on the year. You must also look at the month it was made. Again, it is right next to the year and will have the month in a circle with a slash through it. Just like the year, if it says 1/1, that means it was made in november, the eleventh month. This is a general rule on all honda motors, but the month is not always there. Now, i'll show you why the year is not 100% accurate. If a motor was made in 98, but was made in november or december of that year, it is actually a 99 motor. That is because they start making the motors early for the next years vehicles. If the head was made in september/october though, that is a tossup as it may either be the year cast on the head, or the next year, because that is the crossover where they stop making the current years vehicles and start producing the next year's vehicles.

Believe it or not, almost all B20's, regardless of year, come with the 96+ Integra LS P75 head. They are 99% identical. They have the same valves, springs, valve covers, distributors, cam gears, etc. as 96+ USDM/JDM P75 Integra LS heads. The only differences are w/ the variances in camshafts. There is one exception however. The B20 motor was equipped in MANY vehicles in Japan, mainly the SM-X, Step Wagon, CRV, and Orthia. Of the many B20 powered vehicles, three of them came with the P8R head, and only in certain model years. The Orthia, which came out in 1996 was one. The other was the Step Wagon. The orthia came with the P8R head in it's 96-98 model years and the step wagon came with the P8R equipped B20B in it's 96-98 model years. The CRV also came with either the P8R head or P75 head in it's 96-98 model years. The P8R head is a completely different casting than P75 heads which were used on all other B20's. This head came with 84mm combustion chambers and 33mm vtec sized intake valves.



All 99-00 B20's have a knock sensor, regardless of where it comes from, which signifies the high compression 9.6:1 motor. If your B20 does NOT have a knock sensor, it is not the 9.6:1 compression motor. High compression B20's use "PHK" pistons which have a less of a dish them, as the "P3f" pistons found in the low compression B20's do. All B20's have an 84mm Bore and an 89mm stroke regardless of year. They are internally and externally identical to 96+ B18B's, with the exception of the Pistons, sleeves, and in some cases, the intake manifold and cams. They all have an 81mm combustion chamber diameter as well, except for the "P8R" head, which has an 84mm diameter and larger valves, as described above.
 

Smartin

New Member
Good site spitfire! :thumsup:

A friend told me I will need to use my obd1 injectors into the b20, is this true?
 

Smartin

New Member
Good site spitfire! :thumsup:

A friend told me I will need to use my obd1 injectors into the b20, is this true?
 

72Spitfire

Member
I've found that the above is the most comprehensive information gathered. I have a B20 and a P8R head sitting in my basement due to be swapped in sometime this fall so i have been aquiring as much info as I can on the subject. Hope that helped ya!
 

Spawne32

Shut up baby, I know it!
I've found that the above is the most comprehensive information gathered. I have a B20 and a P8R head sitting in my basement due to be swapped in sometime this fall so i have been aquiring as much info as I can on the subject. Hope that helped ya!
P8R crew 8)
 
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